My Renault Alliance

Hello all the Renault 9 and 11 lovers, sorry I don’t speak Turkish, only French, Spanish and English. I live in the south of France, I will introduce you my AMC Renault Alliance convertible, this is a 1986 model, it came from an AMC Renault Dealer from Pennsylvania, USA. This model is equipped with cruise control, 4 power windows, power convertible top, power lock, power steering, air conditioning, full option except the automatic transaxle. My car is moved by an 1,7 liters F3N engine, with a throttle body fuel injection.
My car need a new paint. I've just replaced the soft top by a black one, as it was in 1986.
This car was made in the AMC front lake plant, in Kenosha Wisconsin, USA. More information in my website http://renault-alliance.dyndns.org

not important to what you speak. we can understand you..

gool car!
f3n engine like r11 f2n engine and ı like this engine
how many power it have?

we didn't saw these model in turkey.

sorry bad english
kazasız belasız

It doesn't matter whether you speak Turkish or not . English is a global language everybody knows . Wow , a really nice car for a 1986 model . As you've mentioned , the car you have owned were produced for American market . From the front view it is really similar to American cars of that age . I liked the stop lights and bumpers . They are so different and impossible to find in our country . These cars are really well-equipped in contrast to our Renault 9s produced in Turkey . In my 1996 model Renault 9 Fairway which has a 1600 cc. engine (Argentine production) , 92bhp (SAE) , there is no cruise-control , air conditioning , power steering and fuel injection ; it has only two power windows , it is a hardtop not a convertible , has four doors , power lock , and manual gear . Your car is so far better than mine although it is a 1986 model . Really, I'm jealous of you .

In the interior , the steering wheel is the same ,the indicators are alike , however everywhere is red inside . Is that leather furnished ? In my opinion, it is really dazzling . In our forum my friends and I will send you the photos of our cars soon . We wish to see you more often in our forum from now on . See you !

Thank you, as you said, some parts are very difficult to find, I already replaced the power steering rack and pump, these parts not available in France, I find them in USA. The interior is "garnet" cloth, not leather. The engine is not well powered, because of the catalyc converter, I don't remember exactly how many HP, but less than an F2N or European F3N engine.

number one

Some pictures of our French Renault Alliance Rendez-vous with the french Renault Alliance Club ("Kulübü" )



And with the DeLorean Club

Salut safranc,
Trés belle

Merci

renault 9 - delorean ?????
interesting

Really interesting as you have mentioned , but as far as I know Renault engines were used for De Loreans. A rust proof car, almost completely made of steel and heavy of course. And a dreadful petrol consumption .
I don't know much about De Loreans , all I know are these above . Maybe Safranc can give us some information about De Loreans.

Great car,
I want to see this model in Turkey but we don't have any
Renault or Renault Alliance club is in France normal but DeLorean Club is very interesting.

I can see back the futures car And your car is so suddective

welcome to the forum , very clean looking car you got there

as for the power side of things , you can always swap the
standard engine you got there with another/more powerful
F series engine from renault i.e : f3p / f7p / f7r / f4r /f5r etc

The picture of the Alliance with the DeLorean DMC 12 where taken on an rendez-vous betwen the Renault Alliance Club and the DeLorean Stainless Wings club this summer. You're right volkan, the DeLorean where powered by the V6 PRV Engine, this car was made in Ireland, between 1981 and 1983, only 9170 car were manufactured.
About the Engine, Schakal, sure I can replace my F3N by a more powerfull engine, but I really want to keep this car in the original equipment, (the 1987 GTA convertible was powered by the F3R engine).

By the way Safranc , you can see the photos of my car in the "Garaj"-> Garage section of this forum . If you wish, I can add them to the International Area . I'm looking forward to seeing your comments about the photos . (Renault 9 Fairway)-volkan.

Thanks for your comments in the garage section , Safranc . Only Renault 9 Broadway was produced until the year 2000 . Production of Renault 11 ended in 1995 . The latest produced R9 can be called as Phase 3 is different from our cars . It has more modern lines but accessories are nearly the same . I will try to find its photos from outside or from the internet , then you can comment on it . May be our moderator can send the photos but I'm not sure .

Today, I replaced the rear gear contact on the gear box :

The new part was made in Turkey, now my Alliance run with a Turkish part

volkan demiş ki:

In my 1996 model Renault 9 Fairway which has a 1600 cc. engine (Argentine production) , 92bhp (SAE)

I don't understand volkan, your R9 is an Argentine version ?

No , the 1600cc engine was developed in Argentine but my car is a Turkish production.

The 1600 cc R9 engine was improved in Argentine by Renault engineers from the 1400 cc R9 Broadway engine . And this engine was used on Turkish R9 Fairways between the years 1994-1996 as well as on Argentine R9s . It is no longer used now , cos fuel consumption is higher than 1400cc engine . You know fuel prices are fairly high in Turkey. But 1600cc engine is 12hp stronger than 1400cc engine . So fuel consumption is normal in my opinion . I reached 180 kms p/h with my car on the motorway and this speed is high for most R9s . I'm pleased with the engine and trying to keep my car original as you do .

Volkan;
I know that C2L engine is 80 hp(DIN) and C2J engine is 72 hp(DIN),so it is 8hp stronger than C2J.

And also C2L engine is used in R11 Rainbows.

volkan demiş ki:

The 1600 cc R9 engine was improved in Argentine by Renault engineers from the 1400 cc R9 Broadway engine . And this engine was used on Turkish R9 Fairways between the years 1994-1996 as well as on Argentine R9s . It is no longer used now , cos fuel consumption is higher than 1400cc engine . You know fuel prices are fairly high in Turkey. But 1600cc engine is 12hp stronger than 1400cc engine . So fuel consumption is normal in my opinion . I reached 180 kms p/h with my car on the motorway and this speed is high for most R9s . I'm pleased with the engine and trying to keep my car original as you do .

Safranc;
It is nice to see Turkish parts on your Alliance
It is usual because R9 has pruduced until 2000,and OYAK-Renault must produce spare parts for this cars for ten years.Our cars guaranted until 2010 for spare parts;)

Oh , I have given (SAE) values not (DIN) . 1400cc engine is 80hp (SAE) and 1600cc engine is 92hp (SAE) . If we convert into (DIN) then you are right 1400cc is 72hp (DIN) , 1600cc is 80hp (DIN) . Thanks for your correction .

Safranc;
Can you explain us cruise control system on your car,and if itispossible can you show us pictures of the system.

Sure, I will make you some pictures.

The cruise control system

Safranc;
Thanks for photos

We want to add this option to our C1J,C2J and F2N engines. Is it possible for them.

And can we find this parts from France or USA.I looked ebay,but i havent found.

Well, I think it will be very difficult to find in US, and in France, probably impossible. The only way is to find a guy on Ebay USA who is parting out a Renault Alliance, I think you need the harness, the switch, the servo, the regulator, the specific speedometer cable, and the cruise generator.
I already see all theses parts on Ebay, but not in the same time !

Yes safranc,you are right,it is very difficult to find this parts.
universal cruise control systems are avaliable but i want to original view on my car,it look very attractive than universal kits for me

And i want to ask other part i need;

ordinateur de bord
debimetre
capteur de vitesse

odb and debimetre can be found but capteur de vitesse is very difficult,i never saw on ebay.

Safranc , you can follow the garage section to see the photos of latest version of Renault 9 RN 1997 model . These versions (RN and RNI) were produced till the year 2000 . And that was the end of Renault 9 production in Turkiye .

volkan demiş ki:

Safranc , you can follow the garage section to see the photos of latest version of Renault 9 RN 1997 model . These versions (RN and RNI) were produced till the year 2000 . And that was the end of Renault 9 production in Turkiye .

Salut safranc,

Les Renault 9 était encore produite jusqu'en 2000 en Turquie par Usines "Oyak-Renault Otomobil Fabrikaları A.Ş." dans la ville de Bursa.

Gamme Renault 9 Phase 3 (Date de sortie 1997-Date de fin 2000)

*Broadway 1.4 RL
*Broadway 1.4 RN
*Broadway 1.4i RN (non RNI)


Les différences entre phase 2 et 3;
Bouclier Av.
Bouclier Ar.
Projecteur
Feux Ar.
Les monogrammes
Tableu de bord (Gris Clair)
Siéges
Volant
Alliage Legér (1.4i RN)
Nouveau Moteur E7J Energy (1.4i RN)…

Thank you, I will see !

Could you tell me if some turkish R9 were produced with red interior and carpet ?

I haven't seen any R9 with red interior and carpet in Turkey . It's my first to see your R9 with red interior . As far as I know R9 were produced with light-brown and gray-black interior in Turkey . But Lauréate has more knowledge about Renaults than me . I'm sure he is going to inform you soon .

safranc demiş ki:

Could you tell me if some turkish R9 were produced with red interior and carpet ?

Non,

İntérieur "Beige" ou "Gris".

salut safranc vraiment jolie voiture et aussi elle est a vraiment belle condition pour une voiture de cet age.

Thank you

hi;
are you from "france forum"?

gorkemonat demiş ki:

salut safranc vraiment jolie voiture et aussi elle est a vraiment belle condition pour une voiture de cet age.

wonderfull
coupe renault hah?

Renault9 demiş ki:

hi;
are you from "france forum"?

gorkemonat demiş ki:

salut safranc vraiment jolie voiture et aussi elle est a vraiment belle condition pour une voiture de cet age.

yok be abi has be has türküz aracım da renault değil ancak blogunda forumunda ilgimi çekti bende kendi çapımda böyle şeylerle uğraşmayı seviyorum.

Tamam dostum
Hoşgeldin aramıza

gorkemonat demiş ki:

Renault9 demiş ki:

hi;
are you from "france forum"?

gorkemonat demiş ki:

salut safranc vraiment jolie voiture et aussi elle est a vraiment belle condition pour une voiture de cet age.

yok be abi has be has türküz aracım da renault değil ancak blogunda forumunda ilgimi çekti bende kendi çapımda böyle şeylerle uğraşmayı seviyorum.

the news :
Black convertible top and luggage rack.

Very nice photos Thanks

Can you take the picture of power steering system?

Hi Safranc, it has been so long to see you in the forum . Ask anything you want to learn about Turkish Renault 9-11s . We want to see you more frequent in our forum . You can also send the photos of Different Renault 9-11 models in France . That can be very informative among us . Tell us what you are usually talking in the French forum . Thanks . See you

Thank you
You're right, but I'm really understand nothing in turkish, it's very diificult to understand the topic. I'm sorry.

Renault 9, tell me what you want to see about the power steering, the rack, the pump, the reservoir, all ?

Here a picture of a sad Alliance in Poland

Safranc , I'm afraid Renault 9 (Our admin , Ercan) has just joined the Army to complete his obligatory military service . It has been almost a week . Now he is a soldier in Tunceli , a province in the east of Turkey . He will come back in May 2008 and join our forum again . If he has the chance in the army , he can write here anytime .

By the way you can send all the photos of your car's power steering system as you told . That sad Alliance needs to be sent to Pimp my Ride (MTV's car restoration programme) in my opinion . But it seems in a good condition ; just needs some paint , a new top and some repair...That's all :clapping:

I saw that the military service is still obligatory in Turkey, I wish him good luck !

Pimp my ride ! with a coffee machine and a plasma TV inside, why not
I think this polish bathtub need more than a new paint !

Or the Overhaulin' on Discovery Channel . They make brand new cars from the oldies. They make muscle cars from the ordinary classic Americans . I wish we have a programme like that in our country . Unfortunately there isn't any.

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